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  1. #1 March 2nd, 2012

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    Hey everyone! Some of you may know me from around the forums, but if you don't, I shall introduce myself. My name's Ian Chandler. I'm an 18-year-old magician from Ohio and am extremely proud to announce my magic debut! With the help of one of my most awesome friends, I was able to film performances and tutorials of a few of my original ideas/tricks. So, my trick Hostage will be released on the Wire sometime next week! It's a sandwich effect wherein the spectator seems to do the magic. Any price suggestions will be welcome, but I'm more interested in your reactions.

    This is a solid trick I've had for about a year and a half or so, and have performed it for many different varieties of spectators and I can safely say it impresses 99 percent of them. It's in the vein of the Bucks' Autocatch, but with spectator involvement. I've been using it in my set more recently and it's done wonders for me.

    Here's a glimpse of it.



    I hope you enjoy it. Quite a few more of my creations will show up on the Wire soon as well. Get ready! I'm super excited to show you guys this awesome stuff. xD

    Ian

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  2. #2 March 3rd, 2012

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    It's a good routine but not original by any means. I've seem the same premise and the same sleights time after time. what you did in the video would work for spectators, but it won't hold too strong trying to sell, seeing as how it's nothing too new or eye catching. Keep it up though!

  3. #3 March 3rd, 2012

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    That's exactly the point. My routines and tricks aren't devised for magicians; I couldn't care less about pleasing anyone on Theory11. If you can look past the simplicity and see the effect for what it is - an impossible feat performed by a spectator - then you have an awesome piece of magic in your hands. Thanks for the comment man, I appreciate the interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyT View Post
    What do Obama and Daniel Madison have in common?
    Both promised Change, but so far . . . . . nothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor
    Or you can throw a duck at the spec and do a top change.
    "We goin' to hell, and I'm driving!" - Chris Kenner
  4. #4 March 3rd, 2012

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    I never do a trick for magician ! too difficult

  5. #5 March 3rd, 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by wZEnigma View Post
    That's exactly the point. My routines and tricks aren't devised for magicians; I couldn't care less about pleasing anyone on Theory11. If you can look past the simplicity and see the effect for what it is - an impossible feat performed by a spectator - then you have an awesome piece of magic in your hands. Thanks for the comment man, I appreciate the interest.
    You missed my point entirely. I'm not saying it's not good because it's not a magician cooler. I'm saying it's no where near original. I've seen it all done before a million times over. The sleights are pretty much near public domain even. That's what I'm saying. You want something that people will see and be like "Oh... This is different." Rather than, after first view, "Oh... This is already in my default routine..."

  6. #6 March 4th, 2012

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    You have a nice idea here! Probably not for magicians but good for laymen! keep up the good work!

  7. #7 March 4th, 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsherF View Post
    You missed my point entirely. I'm not saying it's not good because it's not a magician cooler. I'm saying it's no where near original. I've seen it all done before a million times over. The sleights are pretty much near public domain even. That's what I'm saying. You want something that people will see and be like "Oh... This is different." Rather than, after first view, "Oh... This is already in my default routine..."
    I didn't miss your point at all. I agree that it's not original, but that is hardly the point of a trick, and, frankly, a skewed view of magic. To the spectator, this is different. Most card men don't install an effect where the spectator does the magic. Search and Destroy is a notable exception, however, and a fantastic piece of conjuring.

    And Zach - I made the point that it's not for magicians up there.

    This isn't an effect for you guys. It's for the audience.

    Peace out.

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyT View Post
    What do Obama and Daniel Madison have in common?
    Both promised Change, but so far . . . . . nothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor
    Or you can throw a duck at the spec and do a top change.
    "We goin' to hell, and I'm driving!" - Chris Kenner
  8. #8 March 4th, 2012

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    You see though, that isn't my view. You're basically asking if this is worthy of the Wire, and even agree it's not original. So the answer is No. My comment had nothing to do with whether or not we should perform for magician's or spectators. I have next to no magician foolers in my repertoire. If you're trying to sell it on the wire.. sorry to say but it has to be original to magicians, not the spectators.

  9. #9 March 5th, 2012

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    This isn't an effect for you guys. It's for the audience.
    but you want to sell it to us ?

    I agree that it's not original, but that is hardly the point of a trick
    thats correct
    BUT for a trick you want to sell on the wire, being original is exactly the point

  10. #10 March 5th, 2012

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    I'm probably releasing it for free or $0.99, just because of the outward simplicity of it. It's a solid effect, and more than anything it's an idea to share with you guys to get your creativity moving.

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyT View Post
    What do Obama and Daniel Madison have in common?
    Both promised Change, but so far . . . . . nothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor
    Or you can throw a duck at the spec and do a top change.
    "We goin' to hell, and I'm driving!" - Chris Kenner

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