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Addy
April 15th, 2008, 12:07 PM
For anyone who does the Superflip change, I'm having problems with it. Everytime I do the change the cards doesn't land square with the deck, but at an angle.

Also, the card turns over very slow in mid air. Any ways to make it flip over faster?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

Aos
April 15th, 2008, 12:16 PM
is this the move used in tivo transpo?
im having problems with it as well
its not nearly as reliable as i would like it to be
is it possible to get to be perfect 100% of the time?

Gatitoxxx
April 15th, 2008, 01:50 PM
For anyone who does the Superflip change, I'm having problems with it. Everytime I do the change the cards doesn't land square with the deck, but at an angle.

Also, the card turns over very slow in mid air. Any ways to make it flip over faster?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

The change is knacky but is nowhere near the difficulty of the duck change. If you watch the Tivo Video, you will see that the deceptiveness of the change comes from the fluidity of the movement (the cards cascading and the final card changing). To make it change horizontally (and have it land square and not at an angle) you have to release both thumb and middle finger at the same time. If it still lands angled, tried skewing the deck a bit so it matches the angle of the cards. To make it change faster I "hit" the card to be changed with my index finger. Not just apply pressure with it, but actually hit the card with a bit of force (you'll have to play with this) to cause the change.


is this the move used in tivo transpo?
im having problems with it as well
its not nearly as reliable as i would like it to be
is it possible to get to be perfect 100% of the time?

Yes, it is possible to have it perfect after practice. I will say this, it takes a bit of time to get the feel for the cards right before the change (as in how many you are holding). But after that you should be ok. Read my recommendations above, and hopefully your superflip can become more reliable.


Any more questions let me know.


Juan

Aos
April 15th, 2008, 02:41 PM
well speaking of which
i dont think the change is _at all_ deceptive
you can see exactly what is happening
there slight deception from the misdirection of the super quick reveal of the second card
but i think its a pretty weak move all in all

elementalconjurer
April 15th, 2008, 02:49 PM
i use the duck change. so much better

Aos
April 15th, 2008, 03:13 PM
is that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u9hXPjjNmM&NR=1) it?
how is this different from superflip?

Gatitoxxx
April 15th, 2008, 03:21 PM
well speaking of which
i dont think the change is _at all_ deceptive
you can see exactly what is happening
there slight deception from the misdirection of the super quick reveal of the second card
but i think its a pretty weak move all in all

The deception, as I stated above, is on the cascade of cards. The superflip is not intended to be used on its own. Most people just see it as a flip, but if you do the cascade of cards and are good enough where the cards just flow, then the flip just blends in and it looks awesome. I use the duck change also quite a bit (the technique is way different from the superflip) but I like both equally.

Aos
April 15th, 2008, 03:32 PM
where can one learn the duck change?

JD4WG5
April 15th, 2008, 04:56 PM
you can learn the duck change in the move deja vu by dan and dave buck in the trilogy disk 1 tricks

Aos
April 15th, 2008, 05:12 PM
cool thanks

Addy
April 16th, 2008, 04:51 AM
The change is knacky but is nowhere near the difficulty of the duck change. If you watch the Tivo Video, you will see that the deceptiveness of the change comes from the fluidity of the movement (the cards cascading and the final card changing). To make it change horizontally (and have it land square and not at an angle) you have to release both thumb and middle finger at the same time. If it still lands angled, tried skewing the deck a bit so it matches the angle of the cards. To make it change faster I "hit" the card to be changed with my index finger. Not just apply pressure with it, but actually hit the card with a bit of force (you'll have to play with this) to cause the change.
Juan

Thanks man. I appreciate the help.

Funnily, I find the duck change much easier than the superflip

Another thing that occurs to me is that sometimes the double turns end for end, instead of turning sideways.

i use the duck change. so much better
I use the duck change, but personally, I think the Superflip looks the best when used in Tivo.

Addy
April 16th, 2008, 05:01 AM
Aw dang...double posted
Sorry.

RichmanMatthew
April 16th, 2008, 08:45 PM
Try doing the SuperFlip with a break.

:D