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RebelAce69
April 14th, 2008, 11:43 PM
This is a video I filmed/edited the other day. All of the crediting/information you need will be found in the Video Description.

Give me your opinions, thoughts, criticism, and anything I could improve on etc. But, don't go too hard on me. ;)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ln5AXwyUZGo

-RA69

Aos
April 14th, 2008, 11:54 PM
was that the goat change?
where can i learn it?

RebelAce69
April 15th, 2008, 12:06 AM
was that the goat change?
where can i learn it?

If you read the full video description on the right-hand side it will state everything you need to know.

But, simply put it is not. It is a method I came up with independently, with some inspiration from others, that being the G.O.A.T Change as well as others.

-RA69

DavidMisner
April 15th, 2008, 12:31 AM
Nice video Cody. I'm glad to see somebody has put some of my material to good use. I just tried out your routine and it's actually quite good. The angles get a bit iffy, but hey, it's not so bad.

David

Edit: The music is awesome. Joe Anderson's Hey Jude cover is amazing.

David Again

RebelAce69
April 15th, 2008, 12:36 AM
Nice video Cody. I'm glad to see somebody has put some of my material to good use. I just tried out your routine and it's actually quite good. The angles get a bit iffy, but hey, it's not so bad.

David

Edit: The music is awesome. Joe Anderson's Hey Jude cover is amazing.

David Again

Haha, I have the whole album and movie on my Touch. Across the Universe is worth the watch if your a Beatles fan.

And your very welcome, it's a great idea. And the angles, yes they're iffy, since the best and only angle is the one where the camera is positioned in the video. I've done it in real life though since I've practiced that change to no end, and it does work, when the changes goes well lol.

And I will post that review soon, been very busy.

-RA69

Aos
April 15th, 2008, 12:45 AM
where is the goat change from?

DavidMisner
April 15th, 2008, 12:47 AM
where is the goat change from?

The first peek was in Dan and Dave's Artist video during the original T11 hunt. People like Ineski have posted their versions on Youtube as well.

Rumor has it the change will be taught on the upcoming companion DVD for the Trilogy entitled 'andthensome.'

David

Aos
April 15th, 2008, 12:50 AM
it looks mad awesome
i hope its practical

2ndDeal
April 15th, 2008, 10:00 AM
it looks mad awesome
i hope its practical

Yes it is.

darosa.justin
April 15th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Sorry, I don't really understand what the actual effect is?

DavidMisner
April 15th, 2008, 11:23 AM
Sorry, I don't really understand what the actual effect is?

Really? It seems pretty clear to me. A card is inserted face-down into the deck, and with a flick reverses itself.

David

RebelAce69
April 15th, 2008, 11:53 AM
Sorry, I don't really understand what the actual effect is?

It is a little hard to follow along since I didn't use patter. But, if you follow along with the top card you should understand.

The basic effect is a card face-down in the middle of the deck automatically reverses it self with just a flick, as David mentioned.

-RA69

Aos
April 15th, 2008, 12:01 PM
i was going to say this as well
i was completely lost as to what you were doing until the change happened
all of your movements seemed arbitrary

RichmanMatthew
April 15th, 2008, 09:29 PM
This is a video I filmed/edited the other day. All of the crediting/information you need will be found in the Video Description.

Give me your opinions, thoughts, criticism, and anything I could improve on etc. But, don't go too hard on me. ;)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ln5AXwyUZGo

-RA69

WOAHH! I love that change!

iq92
April 17th, 2008, 01:58 PM
For an effect that's supposed to reverse a card in just a flick, that took quite some time. Maybe I'm wrong but it seemed that there were too many unnecessary movements and replacements of the card that it kind of confused me at first as to what you were trying to do. I would have wanted it to be more direct, as in "get card, put in the middle, snap and reverse", if it's possible. Just some constructive criticism.

Otherwise, nice handling and "modern approach to the old concept".

Aos
April 17th, 2008, 02:21 PM
yeah
if you could do it clean with no doubles that would be sick

ace18
April 17th, 2008, 03:49 PM
I found the handling extremely "fumbly", I mean here is the sequence of events:

Card Chosen.
Put face-down on the deck.
All around Square up.
Turn the card face-up again.
Put the card back face down.
All around square up.
Cut the deck.
out jog the card.
Take the card out and put it in the middle.
Finally the change.

That is ridiculous. It is not straight forward at all, I don't care if you have patter to cover it, because there is still no reason to do all that.

I could make a much cleaner, and faster version of that, with a DL and an Impulse change.

Morgician
April 17th, 2008, 05:05 PM
THHHHHHHHANK YOU - you are not alone critical thinker. I agree - nice video eye candy. Perhaps magic should have a new branch of magic. Like flourishes (cardistry) is it's own branch, and kid's magic, mentalism....perhaps, VIDICIAN or something like that. Guys that do magic on video, and think it will work in real life.

Nice change, really - but when you start talking about your angles and what you get out if it - I couldn't agree more with ace18.

DavidMisner
April 17th, 2008, 09:32 PM
I don't get how you guys can criticize the angles when you don't even know the method.

I have to agree with the longevity of the effect, though. You did stretch it out quite a bit, when in reality it could have been done much quicker.

David

Aos
April 17th, 2008, 09:36 PM
we know exactly what must happen
and doing it that loose is bad and will show it completely.

DavidMisner
April 17th, 2008, 11:04 PM
we know exactly what must happen
and doing it that loose is bad and will show it completely.

Huh?

(word cooooooouuuuuuunt)

David

Aos
April 17th, 2008, 11:49 PM
hehe i missposted
i was talking about the pass in the other topic
im pretty sure i mentioned i was talking about the pass too
maybe somebody edited it out
which happens a lot
im not a big fan of these ghost edits
its creepy

DavidMisner
April 18th, 2008, 12:09 AM
hehe i missposted
i was talking about the pass in the other topic
im pretty sure i mentioned i was talking about the pass too
maybe somebody edited it out
which happens a lot
im not a big fan of these ghost edits
its creepy

I think when you said 'pass' a mod thought you were exposing the effect so he/she edited the post. Just to clear things up to everybody, there is no pass used in this effect.

David

RebelAce69
April 18th, 2008, 12:25 AM
hehe i missposted
i was talking about the pass in the other topic
im pretty sure i mentioned i was talking about the pass too
maybe somebody edited it out
which happens a lot
im not a big fan of these ghost edits
its creepy

It was Jack who edited your post, it says so underneath your post.

Well, it looks like some people have taking a liking to pointing out every flaw in the effect. It's not perfect by any means, and yes it's dragged out. I could do an effect that takes 5 seconds and you get instant-gratification and the effect is very easily adaptable to fit those needs.

But, a lot of you are right and there is a lot of unnecessary movements and I've conceived an alternate handling based on all of your opinions. Albeit it kinda harsh, I appreciate your thoughts.

-RA69

Aos
April 18th, 2008, 12:30 AM
huh?
i dont see _anything_ below or above or anywhere near my post on saying who edited it