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3ofClubs93
March 25th, 2008, 12:26 PM
Hey,
I was just wondering if you ever work a trick out, what do you do then??
Do you perform them?
Do you buy the DVD/Download?book anyway?
Just wanting some opinions.
Thanks
3ofclubs93:D
altrez
March 25th, 2008, 01:33 PM
Could you please define "Work a trick out" more clearly?
Thank's
-Altrez
Farrell
March 25th, 2008, 01:48 PM
You figure out the method to an effect without the assistance of additional material ie the original learning source.
Shodan
March 25th, 2008, 02:05 PM
I don't usually invest the time trying to reconstruct methods for tricks that I like. If I like the effect enough to want to use it, I'll buy the publication. If I don't, then I won't.
if the method is obvious from the preview, then I would go so far as to say that it aint worth the money.
3ofClubs93
March 25th, 2008, 02:11 PM
I don't usually invest the time trying to reconstruct methods for tricks that I like. If I like the effect enough to want to use it, I'll buy the publication. If I don't, then I won't.
if the method is obvious from the preview, then I would go so far as to say that it aint worth the money.
Fair enough.
I would probably agree.
Aris.SA
March 25th, 2008, 02:39 PM
I don't usually invest the time trying to reconstruct methods for tricks that I like. If I like the effect enough to want to use it, I'll buy the publication. If I don't, then I won't.
if the method is obvious from the preview, then I would go so far as to say that it aint worth the money.
and if the trick hasnt been published?
altrez
March 25th, 2008, 02:40 PM
If you figure out the effect from simply watching a demo one time then I would say good job! However if you watch the same video over an over and over etc... Then I would say that would lead you into more of a gray area. If I like the effect enough to try and reverse engineer the effect then I buy it. If its a simple move / with a different handling then I use I do not.
However let me make this VERY clear. If I figure out an effect from watching a demo and preform the effect in public even one time I BUY IT.
-Altrez
Shodan
March 25th, 2008, 02:44 PM
If it hasn't been published, then usually the video is a preview and so...I'll wait.
awimagic
March 26th, 2008, 01:35 AM
If I see an effect and its good AND I couldn't figure out the method the first time, I most definitely reverse engineer it. Its like being posed with a problem and then coming up with a solution.
Many professionals put in a lot of effort to develop a signature effect and for professional reasons they don't want a host of other ppl to perform it. If one wants to include such signature effects of other performers in their own professional repertoire then its best to ask for permission from the creator.
The late Jack Parker had once uploaded a video performance of U.S.D.I. and that really intrigued me. So I worked it out ( not entirely but in principle ) and was more interested to learn the turn over switch he used. So I PMed him asking for the source of the switch. He never replied. Don't know if he was offended by idiots like me figuring out the process if not the technique.
Anyways don't lose sleep over the fact that you work out effects. Its but natural for humans to do just that. Ppl always try to work out the solution to puzzles.
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