Best Impromtu Coin Vanish?

[jedijames]

Hello.
I have been searching for months to find a good impromtu coin vanish.
But I diden't find one yet.
I have revolution and other coin vansih DVD's but I just don't like them.
Where can I find a good coin vanish?
Hope you can help:)

[scottbaird]

Complete coin vanish, or one where you're dirty and (possibly) have to ditch?

Scott.

[Krash]

Hello.
I have been searching for months to find a good impromtu coin vanish.
But I diden't find one yet.
I have revolution and other coin vansih DVD's but I just don't like them.
Where can I find a good coin vanish?
Hope you can help:)

I know that I'm not exactly a coin guy myself, but I could probably point you to the right direction if your looking for variety when it comes to coin vanishes. You may want to check out hanklee.com

There is a whole section with 10 or so pages of effects that deal with coins. There is bound to be something close to what you are looking for there!

Shane K.

[elementalconjurer]

no offence man but if you want a really good impromtu compleate vanish and you dont like the revolution, you might want to check out sleeving

[Phenomena]

i forget what its called
but rhe coin trick that ends up on your head...without them knowing

[Diego]

silver dream in short sleeves expensive if you cant figure it out

[y2john]

Silver Dream

The Imagination vanish by Eric Jones

There's two Coin Vanish manuscripts from coinvanish.com

[lux-ferre]

I think the best impromptu coin vanish is Revolution. It's sad that you don't like it and I'm wondering why. Why don't you like it? Other coin vanishes out there don't immediately leave you clean. Like elementalconjurer said, the next best thing is sleeving.

[TKH]

Whats wrong with ending dirty?

Nothing, you can then reproduce the coin. If you know how to convincingly look clean. Sleeving doesn't end you clean either, and what wrong with sleeving the coin that you have palmed from a retention vanish. Very easy impromptu complete coin vanish.

[joshua barrett]

this isn;t really a good question. the answer is the one that make the routine flow better, sleeving is a complete vanish, i can get coins caught inside my sleeve and can get them to stay put when the arms drop.

if for some strange reason you need to JUST vanish a single coin it can as simple as a false transfer and a trip to the pocket for a wand or pen. you guys over complicate the matter

[scottbaird]

RANT TIME

The problem with so-called "coin magic" these days, is that the younger generation of magicians (no offense, I understand that it's a generalisation) treats vanishing a single coin as a stand-alone effect. (ie, revolution, breakaway vanish, GONE vanish, etc.)

Here's the thing.

I can get the same reaction from a retention vanish (and I don't even have to follow it up with Wiped Clean- although I do). So really, I'm getting a BETTER reaction.

Vanishing ONE coin is like doing the pass with cards. Without an effect to frame it- it's not entertaining, and barely amazing.

I don't think it's enough. Unless your magic show is 45 seconds long.

Learn some routines- not just vanishes.

/rant. :)

Scott.

[joshua barrett]

bravo scott thats exactly what i was getting at. i like you more with every post, im glad you are here

[MitchellStafiej]

A nice false transfer... keep it simple, you'll get better reactions with that than you will with a shell or anything else if you know how to use it. Also, try working it into a routine, it become much more powerful and magical when something surrounds the vanish.


Mitchell

[AntonHolmes]

Jedijames,
What are you wanting to use this vanish for?
Are you trying to fit it in to an existing routine or are you wanting something to start out with?

Done well one of the best impromptu coin vanishes is the french drop. If you believe that the coin is in the hand it's not, the spectators will believe that too.

From there you are able to produce it from another place, or just ditch it in your pocket.

The better the info that you give us the better the info that you will get back will be.

Anton

[jedijames]

hello.
I would like to vanish a coin without any sleves.
I have a DVD called Harada Hold but I don't like it to much.
It would be nice to make a coin vanish with out bad angel problems but the coin can still be in the hand.
Do you know any way how to do this?

[Ting]

For a simple coin vanish all i do is false transfer into the left hand, and bring my left hand forward in a fist to keep their attention on that hand, sneak the other hand into the pocket, bring both hands back, build up, and reveal.

also using the classic palm is great because you can do the false transfer and make it appear your right hand is empty so that the audience will watch the left hand more intently.

[y2john]

RANT TIME

The problem with so-called "coin magic" these days, is that the younger generation of magicians (no offense, I understand that it's a generalisation) treats vanishing a single coin as a stand-alone effect. (ie, revolution, breakaway vanish, GONE vanish, etc.)

Here's the thing.

I can get the same reaction from a retention vanish (and I don't even have to follow it up with Wiped Clean- although I do). So really, I'm getting a BETTER reaction.

Vanishing ONE coin is like doing the pass with cards. Without an effect to frame it- it's not entertaining, and barely amazing.

I don't think it's enough. Unless your magic show is 45 seconds long.

Learn some routines- not just vanishes.

/rant.

Scott.

Great post and something which the topic creator should take note of.

It's all well and good having a vanish but don't do just that on it's own, use it in a routine.

[AntonHolmes]

hello.
I would like to vanish a coin without any sleves.
I have a DVD called Harada Hold but I don't like it to much.
It would be nice to make a coin vanish with out bad angel problems but the coin can still be in the hand.
Do you know any way how to do this?

Really you are asking a question with a lot of answers.
But John and Scott are right, just vanishing a coin is not magical. You need to routine it to make it entertaining, to have some sort of meaning and purpose.

The Harada Hold is really quite an advanced place to start if you wanted a coin vanish, however on the DVD there are some very nice routines that if you can master will give you great results.
The angles are not really as bad as they seem as long as you are performing for small groups of people.
Can I suggest picking up a copy of J.B. Bobo's New Modern Coin Magic book (I recommend the full hard cover version rather than the 'lite' soft cover edition) and working through the sleights and routines in there. You should find that an ample source to start out in coin magic.

[-Ty]

Totally agree Scott.

I also think that magicians are looking for the cleanest way possible, because they're afraid to be dirty. Being dirty is fine, as long as you don't look like you're dirty!

For vanishes, go back to Bobo's.

Ty

[Koin]

Slide and Got2B Gone by Shoot Ogawa

Wither Vanish by Apollo Robbins

Tunnel Vanish by JB Bobo

Slide Vanish by ???

[Koin]

Nothing is wrong with a coin vanish by itself. Just Pretend from JB Bobo's book is simply a vanish and reproduction. The way it is presented is what makes it a startly effect. Some of the best coin routines are simply vanishes.

[scottbaird]

Slide and Got2B Gone by Shoot Ogawa

Wither Vanish by Apollo Robbins

Tunnel Vanish by JB Bobo

Slide Vanish by ???

Should just be "2B gone", and "whither" vanish (with an "h").

Slide was by Shoot Ogawa.

Scott.

[coquito]

Whither Vanish is always fun to do and since the effect is done more about face level you can watch their reactions which is alway hilarious.

[Mike_Sedai]

You know, it's funny. When I first saw the method for Revolution, I laughed and shook my head, figuring it was so clearly obvious, that any chump would be able to figure it out no matter how well it was performed. Meanwhile, I do it all the time at bars or in line somewhere, and it blows people away. Not one person has seen through what I feel is a thin trick.

It goes over pretty well, and is clearly super easy to do...

[JustinClark]

How about a retention vanish using a ramsey sublety to show the hand 'empty'.
I love the ramsey subtlety.

[Liam Carrie]

i know a good vanish with jay sankey called the messiah vanish where you put the coin in your fist and it dissappears instantly.

[Rick Genii]

I would reccomend the RAVEN or if you have the cash, the M5
---Richard

[KildridMagician]

I would reccomend the RAVEN or if you have the cash, the M5
---Richard

The raven is not Impromptu as it uses the Raven system itself. I have a good example, one of my favorite coin vanishes as of right now. If you do not have the Harada Hold, I suggest you get it. It is Imprompto and is by Daika Harada. The move is pretty advanced with it's angles and all, but is very powerful. I bought the Japanese version. In the Dvd or download, you learn the move, then you are taught many routines using the move itself. It's a beautiful vanish I highly recommend. ;)

[vipermagic]

3fry by Chris Kenner is really good too. Its in the 1-on-1 for those who don't know.

[Jack]

If you're looking for vanishes/ slights/ routines I would highly recommend J.B.Bobo's Modern Coin Magic. It's 353 pages long and filled with great step by step instruction on everything from sleeving and cuffing to retention vanishes and even includes some routines to use what you've learned. The best part is that this wealth of information is only $9.95.
Don't get bogged down though. There is a lot of informaion there so pick and choose what suits you best.

[xfile100]

Theres one called X-OR out thats good put out by hocus-pocus check it out:D

[KildridMagician]

Link to X-OR? I have never heard of it before. I only basically use a lot of routines from Jean Bobo's Modern Coin Magic book, and I use the Harada hold a lot since a lot of routines can be manipulated with the move itself. :D

[Chicken]

Don't get XOR. It looks good, but you don't end really clean and it is a rip-off of Eric Jone's effect, imagination. (Which is also a grip used by daniel garcia called the OK production/vanish.)

-Chicken HOHO!

[C=B]

Sleeving sleeving sleeving sleeving...

I use it in every coin routine I can... probably the most visual coin vanishing there is... at your finger tips one second gone the next. LOVE IT.

Sharp