Impervious by Jeremy Hanrahan and Christopher Williams

[MitchellStafiej]

This was my first coin in bottle purchase because I was always skeptical of all of the others as they all received mixed reviews. I finally decided to pick one up and I'm glad it was Impervious.

I don't exactly remember the names of the versions but I will update it once I watch the DVD again.

Version 1 (Christopher Williams):

This version is the one I use the most, you simply ask the spectator for a handful of change, you take a coin and put it on the side of the bottle, then with a rub, it goes right through. The version is deviously simple and everything looks perfectly normal which is what I love about it. When you rotate the bottle to show that nothing is inside, it truly looks amazing.

Version 2 (Jeremy Hanrahan):

Jeremy's version is basically the same, but has a killer display at the beginning. You can hold the bottle in your fingertips (one finger on the cap, one finger on the bottom) it looks beautiful and suspicions will all be put to rest with this display.

Bonus:

The bonus is a version sort of combining the two. Instead of placing the coin on the side, this version allows you to slam the coin through the bottle.

Factory Sealed?

People will ask whether this is able to be factory sealed, and Jeremy shows you a great way to have the bottle factory sealed. There is also a really really simple way to make it seem as if it is sealed.

If you are looking for a wonderful coin through bottle that you will use for years upon years, this is the one. When done right it looks so smooth and you're left with a great souvenir for your spectators. I've gotten great reactions.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

Mitchell

[The Dark Angel]

I've been dying to get this trick for a while now...

[DavidMisner]

It doesn't look all that bad, but I'm not much of a coin thru bottle guy, and it reminds me of sealed in. i really like doing more impromptu things, and obviously this isnt. but thats just my preference.
dM

[houston]

I've ordered the DVD a few days back and I can't wait to receive and watch it.

Just to remind you, Christopher Williams' version is called Ocular Perception, while Jeremy Hanrahan's handling is called Untouchable.

Which handling do you like best?

[MitchellStafiej]

They're both really great, I don't have a preference, I've been using both equally so far.

Mitchell

[Christopher Williams]

All i can say, is i am glad you like the DVD. I perform my handling EVERY week at my club gig. I am fortunate that as a performer, who works in a night club on Friday and Saturday nights, i carry a bottle of water around me all the time to keep hydrated. When working in a hot environment, i find it important to keep water on me. I perform this to EVERYONE, and it NEVER ceases to amaze people

[MagicZen]

From what I read sounds a lot like E's "Factory Sealed' CTB execpt that in this version the method can be hazerdous for sealing up the bottle....not good.

[MitchellStafiej]

From what I read sounds a lot like E's "Factory Sealed' CTB execpt that in this version the method can be hazerdous for sealing up the bottle....not good.
There's a great impromptu way to make it seem as if it is sealed, this is THE coin in bottle that I will be using for a long time.

Mitchell

[MagicZen]

The demo is too quick

[Cameron Francis]

Uh, not quite, MagicZen. There's little more to it than that. With Christopher's version, the spectator can clearly hear the seal breaking as the bottle is opened. And his method is very easy to do. Not dangerous at all.

[KeenanG]

I love the effect.

I find it VERY visual and very easy to perform. Yeah, there is a setup... Is that surprising? I mean honestly.

It will take literally a second to set this effect up.

Great effect, thank you Chris.

Keenan

[MagicZen]

Uh, not quite, MagicZen..

i don't know wbout that demo.

[MagicZen]

thank you Chris.
Keenan

The effect is not something "new"
You forgot Jeremy AND Gary btw..

[Cameron Francis]

MagicZen, you're not getting what I'm saying. While there is some pretnding involved, there is a technique to it. And it's very convincing.

if you honestly think that there is any technique which will allow you to place a coin into a genuinely factory sealed bottle with absolutely no prep, then you are expecting real magic, which not even the holy E CIB's will deliver. You might be able to apparently push a coin through an untampered bottle but it will be an illusion... you know, pretend.

[MitchellStafiej]

MagicZen, you're not getting what I'm saying. While there is some pretnding involved, there is a technique to it. And it's very convincing.

if you honestly think that there is any technique which will allow you to place a coin into a genuinely factory sealed bottle with absolutely no prep, then you are expecting real magic, which not even the holy E CIB's will deliver. You might be able to apparently push a coin through an untampered bottle but it will be an illusion... you know, pretend.
This is so true, people seem to be proclaiming the latest and greatest CIB's as if you could truly penetrate a coin through a bottle. That won't happen, there will always be a technique involved, and so far, this is the closest to a REAL CIB I've come across.

Mitchell

[MagicZen]

While there is some pretnding involved,
.

It's because you can't let them examine the bottle immediately, makes it not as convincing as handing it to them and letting them break the seal like in the original effect Factory Sealed that hit the magic world years ago when it was first introduce to the IBM.

I don't know, this pretend handling jazz to me is something anyone can do.
It's nice for impromptu situations, but not as strong.

The whole idea behind the penetration and bottle position is not at all original.
I don't get this "handling" to pretend to open a bottle to be orignal either.

The one nice original thing though, was Jeremy Hanrahan's hold...That was good.
I hope to see more of Jeremy. He had some innovative ideas that I found original.

Cheers to gentleman Jeremy Hanrahan!

This is so true, people seem to be proclaiming the latest and greatest CIB's as if you could truly penetrate a coin through a bottle. That won't happen, there will always be a technique involved,


The more practical the better.
I look forward to learning the most practical and most effective.
The original Factory Sealed effect is said to be a monster.
Most effective penetration that IS practical and STILL way ahead of anything poppin up these days. It's nice to have alternate routes though, but I'll keep my sites out for the classic effect that the pros in the magic world have cherished for so long.

[MitchellStafiej]

It's because you can't let them examine the bottle immediately, makes it not as convincing as handing it to them and letting them break the seal like in the original effect Factory Sealed that hit the magic world years ago when it was first introduce to the IBM.

I don't know, this pretend handling jazz to me is something anyone can do.
It's nice for impromptu situations, but not as strong.

The whole idea behind the penetration and bottle position is not at all original.
I don't get this "handling" to pretend to open a bottle to be orignal either.

The one nice original thing though, was Jeremy Hanrahan's hold...That was good.
I hope to see more of Jeremy. He had some innovative ideas that I found original.

Cheers to gentleman Jeremy Hanrahan!



Those methods are not very practical and quite time consuming



The more practical the better.
I look forward to learning the most practical and most effective.
The original Factory Sealed effect is said to be a monster.
Most effective penetration that IS practical and STILL way ahead of anything poppin up these days. It's nice to have alternate routes though, but I'll keep my sites out for the classic effect that the pros in the magic world have cherished for so long.
Factory Sealed isn't out yet, so before you start proclaiming it as the best, let's wait for it to actually reach your DVD player. If you NEED the best handling and can't use these because you keep getting caught, then there's nothing wrong with the handling, but with your presentation.

Mitchell

[TheInfomer]

Mitchell,

No need to harp on another member's presentation, especially one you have not seen. You're above that.

Factory Sealed is an original effect of an osmosis-like infusion penetration applied to a full, unopened bottle.
Long in existence to a privlidged circle of magi.

Upon reading Magic Zen's post, I don't believe HE, himself was proclaiming anything...just stating the facts about FACTORY SEALED's long succesful performance history and awaiting to learn all its secrets that have been kept sacred for years.
Those who've known about it and/or used it, continue to come forward vouching it is light years of its time.

[MitchellStafiej]

Mitchell,

No need to harp on another member's presentation, especially one you have not seen. You're above that.

Factory Sealed is an original effect of an osmosis-like infusion penetration applied to a full, unopened bottle.
Long in existence to a privlidged circle of magi.

Upon reading Magic Zen's post, I don't believe HE, himself was proclaiming anything...just stating the facts about FACTORY SEALED's long succesful performance history and awaiting to learn all its secrets that have been kept sacred for years.
Those who've known about it and/or used it, continue to come forward vouching it is light years of its time.
Ok... good for it, doesn't change the fact that it's not out yet and people who don't own it are proclaiming it to be the greatest thing since Arnold's performance in "True Lies".

Mitchell

[TheInfomer]

Factory Sealed has actually been "out" for years. (just not available to everyone)
The post I've encountered we're from those who have performed with it.

But, yes you're right...There ARE some post from the over excited who anticiapte the full public release.

[Christopher Williams]

It's because you can't let them examine the bottle immediately, makes it not as convincing as handing it to them and letting them break the seal like in the original effect Factory Sealed that hit the magic world years ago when it was first introduce to the IBM.

I don't know, this pretend handling jazz to me is something anyone can do.
It's nice for impromptu situations, but not as strong.

The whole idea behind the penetration and bottle position is not at all original.
I don't get this "handling" to pretend to open a bottle to be orignal either.

The one nice original thing though, was Jeremy Hanrahan's hold...That was good.
I hope to see more of Jeremy. He had some innovative ideas that I found original.

Cheers to gentleman Jeremy Hanrahan!



Those methods are not very practical and quite time consuming



The more practical the better.
I look forward to learning the most practical and most effective.
The original Factory Sealed effect is said to be a monster.
Most effective penetration that IS practical and STILL way ahead of anything poppin up these days. It's nice to have alternate routes though, but I'll keep my sites out for the classic effect that the pros in the magic world have cherished for so long.


So sorry you don't like my handling, i didn't expect everyone to. Thanks for the nice comments guys, but you won't change his mind. Atleast he is happy with Jeremys contribution.

Now, when i create effects, i dont think 'What will other Magicians like and use...'. I create for what will work for me, when i perform. Now, to me, performing a factory sealed version isn't practical, or a worker. Why? Because you would have to have lots of set up sealed bottles!
When i perform, i use the same bottle over and over, and it is the bottle i drink out of after, and AT each table, as when you talk, your mouth can get a little dry. Spectators dont care that the coin was too big to come out, or if it was factory sealed, a coin penetrated a bottle, thats the magic part! Solid thru solid! now, yes there are bonuses for that one off factory sealed, bigger coin version, but it doesnt work at EVERY table how i intended myself to perform it. I created it for ME, for ME to use at MY gigs.

As for impromptu handlings...how can you get stronger? What would you be more impressed with, impromptu, or the knowledge of a few hour set up! I know which i prefer...

The handling as far as i know is original to me, and i havent seen another like it, else i wouldnt have released it. I use ONE move which i take NO credit for, and that is Lubor Fielders roll, which i credit on the DVD, i learned it from Alex Wards DVD. My handling looked like it does on the DVD, without that move before i learned it. I found the move sets up the effect perfectly!

[TheInfomer]

God bless Lubor.

[y2john]

Factory Sealed has actually been "out" for years. (just not available to everyone)
The post I've encountered we're from those who have performed with it.

But, yes you're right...There ARE some post from the over excited who anticiapte the full public release.

Yes 'Factory Sealed' has been something Nick Verna has performed for years, but the only other person who knows the method who has given any info is Justin Miller... Brad Christian aswell, but mainly Justin.

As far as im aware, Nick-V has not shared the method with anyone other than the Ellusionist team.
All other posts are by performers who have witnessed it and would love to know it, and they are waiting on it's release just like everyone else.

Impervious is amazing and the CIB that I use.

Factory Sealed sounds amazing and im sure it will be, but no-one other than Nick-V and team E know the workings and so no one other than those can comment on the practicality, difficulty and visualness of the effect.
All comments from anyone else should be taken as speculation as that's what it is.
Im looking forward to 'Factory Sealed' as much as anyone else, but that doesn't change the fact that Impervious is a fantastic cib and at this time THE cib to use.

[Christopher Williams]

I think some of you are missing the point, i think i do remember another CIB released years ago called Factory sealed...it was shown at a convention in a competition in the UK, and it got incredible reactions...i think it was released in limited numbers...i could be wrong, that was a long time ago now though...

[y2john]

Really???

Anyway, Impervious is great, lets wait and see about the others.

[Jeremy Hanrahan]

It's because you can't

The one nice original thing though, was Jeremy Hanrahan's hold...That was good.
I hope to see more of Jeremy. He had some innovative ideas that I found original.

Cheers to gentleman Jeremy Hanrahan!


Well thanks alot man, I appriciate the recognition. I pride myself in being original and go to great length to ensure I am not stepping on other creators shoes. Not only did I research the history of the CIB"S but also looked at other creators personal handlings both in and out of print. I also contacted creators in different camps to see if my method was original or possibly the same as theirs. Out of respect, I contacted Nick Verna about my method before the release,as he has done exstensive work in penatrations effects. He amicably replied that not only was he not using this method but he in fact liked it, and wished me well. As for the other portions on the dvd, which I am not responsible for,he would not comment. If you are interested in finding out what else I have in the "works", please pm or e-mail me.

Regards,
Jeremy Hanrahan
Creator of Untouchable

[TheInfomer]

Jeremy,

Is it possible to just pick up "Untouchable"?

[Jeremy Hanrahan]

Jeremy,

Is it possible to just pick up "Untouchable"?
It will be.I am shooting Untouchable the way is was suppose to be shot. I will have more then 15 mins lol. I plan on showing all the ins and outs, alternate handlings and my oversized coin in bottle version. I can not wait for everyone to see the dvd, but the work Graeme Reed will be putting into this. His editting style is second to none, but I will let his work speak for itself.

Regards,
Jeremy Hanrahan