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The Dark Angel
September 3rd, 2007, 12:02 PM
Alright, yesterday was my birthday, so I got some money and giftcards and all that, and I have several tricks/dvds that I want to get, but I can't choose, so I thought I would get everyone's advice on what I should get!
Here's the list:
Killer Key by Jay Sankey
An Invisible Deck (lost the old one)
13 Steps To Mentalism
Front Row with Jay Sankey
And of course, all the stuff in the poll options.
Trevor Morgan
September 3rd, 2007, 12:05 PM
A. What kind of magic do you do?
B. What level magician do you think you are?
C. How much money do you have?
Trevor
The Dark Angel
September 3rd, 2007, 12:08 PM
A. What kind of magic do you do?
B. What level magician do you think you are?
C. How much money do you have?
Trevor
A. I do Cards, Mentalsim, Close Up and I've recently gotten into coins
B. It's hard to answer, as there is no universal system, but I would say that I could do the tricks on the poll
C.Around $100, but I'm getting a job, so that will increase...
Trevor Morgan
September 3rd, 2007, 12:22 PM
A. I do Cards, Mentalsim, Close Up and I've recently gotten into coins
B. It's hard to answer, as there is no universal system, but I would say that I could do the tricks on the poll
C.Around $100, but I'm getting a job, so that will increase...
My votes are in.
Trevor
Steve Simmons
September 3rd, 2007, 12:26 PM
Front Row Sankey is an incredible dvd that I reccommend without hesitation. It has plenty of cards, mentalism, and coin effects. And one of the strongest pieces of card magic that I do is on there (Full Lotus)...I promise, you'll love it.
Best.
Steve
VJmagicMan
September 3rd, 2007, 12:32 PM
i voted for stigmata because it is an impromptu miracle with three different versions to pick from. But how about getting this along with front row sankey since it contains more than one effect. Just my opinion. Hope i helped.
jtmorris
September 3rd, 2007, 12:33 PM
Invisible deck is probably my first choice because of all the possible routines you can do, and the fact that it hits so hard.
Then Stigmata, just simply because it is so easy to do, and you can really do it anywhere, anytime. The routines taught are very strong and get great reactions.
J
sidrohc
September 3rd, 2007, 12:33 PM
Get Stigmata. It's my favorite effect. It's easy, there is no gimmicks, no set-up, and you learn 3 different methods. I HIGHLY reccomend this.
KeenanG
September 3rd, 2007, 12:35 PM
If you are a 'mentalist' and you don't have 13 steps... Than well, you need that book. Buy it.
Some more reccomendations:
AoA
Strong Magic
Maximum Entertainment
And I voted on the poll.
Keenan
tazer
September 3rd, 2007, 12:38 PM
i said saw, simply because with the right presentation, its realllly good
plus, its one of those tricks that you will always do
theres no reason not to
you can also use it as a closer
"okay gotta go sew this gap in my neck up"
Steve Simmons
September 3rd, 2007, 12:45 PM
While we're on the subject, I didn't like Saw. It was more hassle than it's worth for me. I did it about 3 times, and have since put it away. Not my cup o' tea to say the least... :D
The Dark Angel
September 3rd, 2007, 12:48 PM
Alright guys, right now my order is looking a little something like this:
Stigmata, Invisible Deck and Front Row Sankey.
Of course, I'll probably change it up later on, but that's what it looks like right now.
Oh, I also forgot, there is a dvd called Fingers of Fury by Alan Rorrison on Big Blind Media that I'm thinking about getting also.
Check it out here: http://www.bigblindmedia.com/ It's Volume 1
KeenanG
September 3rd, 2007, 01:13 PM
Oh, I also forgot, there is a dvd called Fingers of Fury by Alan Rorrison on Big Blind Media that I'm thinking about getting also.
Check it out here: http://www.bigblindmedia.com/ It's Volume 1
The only problem I see with this is that I have seen all of that material before.
Is it credited?
Keenan
The Dark Angel
September 3rd, 2007, 01:23 PM
The only problem I see with this is that I have seen all of that material before.
Is it credited?
Keenan
I think that some of the tricks are credited, however I believe that most of them are variations, made and designed by Mister Rorrison.
TheDude
September 3rd, 2007, 01:39 PM
Think about Theory11 for you order. Sure buying lots of tricks can be fun but they loose apeal very fast and become boring. I would suggest spending your $100 on something more worth while and in the long term satisfying E.g a Book, if you want to become great card magician then buy The Paper engine, The card magic of le Paul and Stars Of magic. (not forgetting Erdnase). Coins=Bobo, With these books you can choose to master 3-4 that work for you and your performing style rather than buying 1 trick for $30 that you may or may not like and that simply might not suit you. Hope this helped.
The Dude
zodiac192
September 3rd, 2007, 02:01 PM
I think this should go in Pre-Purchase, but whatever.
Every magician should have an invisible deck. It is an absolute necessity.
Aside from that, Stigmata rules, I would definitely get that as well.
-Zodiac-
Krash
September 3rd, 2007, 02:35 PM
I would really suggest that you go out and find a DVD or book that will give you a multitude of different effects or advice on showmanship. I made that big mistake when I first started magic (around this time last year) and I spent TONS of money on single effect DVDs (though they are great effects). That pretty much hindered my progress as far as knowledge goes.
Once you start doing that, I advise that you just purchase things that you know you are going to enjoy. I mean, look at me, I just ordered a Rocky the Raccoon spring animal so I could learn some of David Williamson's stuff.
Enjoy!
Shane K.
PS...I chose Stigmata, you will not be dissapointed at the reactions that you will get.
S3al
September 3rd, 2007, 02:47 PM
sitgmata is the best choice. There is like no setup. And it tells you 2 other ways to do it, that will may help you with other tricks as well. I learned alot from stigmata.
Henri6
September 3rd, 2007, 03:17 PM
Hi,
First off, happy birthday :)
If you like good tricks, then i would recommend FRAUD.
If you want impromtu, then STIGMATA.
If you are new to coins, and want something with coins, then maybe Modern Coin Magic by JB Bobo, or something like that.
Henri
WILL-I-AM
September 3rd, 2007, 03:28 PM
I am on side of TheDude here,
Get yourself a good book, whether it be mentalism, or coin magic. Find a good book. Something that I do that is really cool (if your library will do it) is go to your local library a.k.a. GOLDMINE and look for a good book, if they don't have it, tell them and they will order it for you! now you have a fantastic resource, and you can take your money and buy something like say Stigmata....because it is EXTREMELY powerful, practice this well and put a little mystery into your eyes when you perform and it hits HARD.
Hope this helps
Avancer
September 3rd, 2007, 04:28 PM
having an invisible deck is always great, but I suggest Stigmata, it's great.
Also, happy birthday.
The Dark Angel
September 3rd, 2007, 04:45 PM
Thanks everyone.
My final order will look something like this:
Stigmata
Invisible Deck
Front Row with Jay Sankey
And I'll just save my money for the rest of the tricks later.
Thanks for your input everybody!
silent
September 3rd, 2007, 06:05 PM
Stigmata and the Invisible Deck are both amazing I use them at parties. good luck and have fun using them
Alan Rorrison
October 3rd, 2007, 01:03 AM
All of the material on Fingers of fury vol 1 and 2 is by me. Any plot that is not original and is MY take on the effect is credited of course.
Alan
The Dark Angel
October 3rd, 2007, 01:18 AM
Good to know, Alan, I haven't ordered it yet, but Volume 1 is still on my wishlist.
JackOSpadesNik
November 18th, 2007, 03:50 PM
Killer Key is awesome. It's my favorite opener. Invisible Deck is genius. Since you like mentalism it's a must have.
I've heard wonderful things about Front Row Sankey.
Saw by Sean Fields is brutal. It's sooooooo visual and will basically guarantee atleast a couple people looking away in disgust when performing. One thing to remember is that it may cause some irritation for some people, and if you have a sensitiive throat with very soft skin, I'd stay away from it. Also, be aware that some people don't enjoy geek magic. This is stuff that is not for people who like happy fun kiddy magic. I don't use it anymore because it's tooo gross for some people and it caused a little skin irritation. But if it's your style to perform gross out/geek magic then go ahead and get it. It's a great illusion.
Practical Mental Magic is a great book for mentalists. Also check out Building Blocks and other Luke Jermay stuff because IMO that's some of the most personal you could get with your spectators. It's the closest thing to make your audience think you can do REAL magic without you actually saying so. IMO that's a good thing.
I highly reccomend Killer Key and The Invisible Deck.
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