Digital Dissolve + J.S.?

[Lionsden123]

Digital dissolve mentions coins by Jamie Schoolcraft, does it come with them, or you need to buy them? If it comes with them and the DVD it seems cheap to me.

Thanks,
Evan

[Steve Simmons]

Search! Search! Search! :)

Yes, it comes with both the dvd and coins. And no, it's not cheap. Nothing made by Jamie Schoolcraft is cheap, I can assure you of that one! LOL!

Just that when you order something in bulk (like the T11 guys did), you get them for a better deal. Then you can pass that savings onto the customer, and they get it for less money.

Best.
Steve

[Djmckee]

Yea? It does come with them, i think its graet its got a english penny for us brits!

[Lionsden123]

Search! Search! Search! :)

Yes, it comes with both the dvd and coins. And no, it's not cheap. Nothing made by Jamie Schoolcraft is cheap, I can assure you of that one! LOL!

Just that when you order something in bulk (like the T11 guys did), you get them for a better deal. Then you can pass that savings onto the customer, and they get it for less money.

Best.
Steve


Well I mean for Schoolcraft gaffed coins, it seems relatively cheap.

Thanks for the info, gotta add this to my list of stuff to get soon.

Thanks,
Evan

[jonraiker]

Well I mean for Schoolcraft gaffed coins, it seems relatively cheap.
You hit the nail on the head. These coins alone could easily be priced at double the amount of Digital Dissolve, simply because they are Schoolcraft coins. The workmanship and quality of the coins themselves is unparalleled.

[JRiggleman]

I was thinking these coins were really cheap too. Well I guess it's an even better deal!

[DannyT]

Not trying to steal a thread but I need to ask. Can you use these coins with the M5? I mean can you vanish the coins?

[Lionsden123]

Do a coin switch to a shim and you're set.

Thanks for the answer Jon, I think this is now 3rd on my list of things to get, the list now being;

1: distortion,
2: Guardians,
3: Digital Dissolve,
and 4: Panic

Thanks,
Evan

[WILL-I-AM]

I tell you what;

Digital Dissolve WITH the schoolcraft coins at that price Absolutely BLEW me away, I mean common now. I love coin magic, and when I saw this well I almost........well we won't mention that here ;)

[bjBueno]

M5, And other Magnetic Ideas:

There is something cool hidden in Digital Dissolve (Thank you schoolcraft) you can wave your hands over the Copper coin and have it change into Silver and everything is in your spectators hands.

My personal preference is to do the routine the way Dan White performs it in Digital Dissolve, but I love the idea of using shims when we can ;) have fun with that. I think everyone is going to love that addition to Digital Dissolve it allows you to really play with the coins and create various effects.

[thexcheat]

i was wondering if this effect involves many/hard slights, because even though im not into coin magic that much( and im not very good with the slights) i still really want to get this, but i dont want to practice hours and hours with one slight.

[ElisG]

Thexcheat:
This is from J.Bayme and should answer your question and give you further info about the effect:
The effect utilizes both the English Penny and the American Half Dollar. It can be used everywhere because it uses coins from two countries (USA & UK), and you can show the coins front and back before, during, and after the effect. The English Pennies, I believe, are no longer circulated in the UK, but the ones you'll receive with the effect are in uncirculated condition (great) and work perfectly.

They can examine the coins to their heart's content when the effect is over. As you'll see in the DD video (incredible), Dan White allows the spectators to check out the coins extremely thoroughly before and after the performance. I've never seen a visual coin change THAT visual or THAT fast-- you'll love it. Extremely simple to perform, and you'll be able to learn it and start performing it quickly.

The bolded part at the end answers your question, but I'd read it all :).

[thexcheat]

i have read that before, but still, i have my doubts, like i probably shouldnt say anything more than this but, i CANNOT do any palms,switches.... nothing(with coins). and ive boughten effects where they say that its extremely easy, and it was hard(in my oppinion). someone doesnt have to answer this if it gives away the trick but, can the coins that actually switched places be examined, or are there means to make it look like that.(some mod delete this post if anything i said was, revealing it in any way)

[ElisG]

He says that they can be examined the entire time...

[liquidsn]

last time i checked... you needed to practice magic to perform it. don't want to sound mean... but if you don't want to put time and effort then don't get it.

[bjBueno]

About Practice of Digital Dissolve:

Good news, you won’t be doing any palm to palm changes. When I would show this in magic conventions a lot of people thought the method was my super great palm change. :)

I believe anyone that wants to do this effect can. It does not have a huge skill entrance fee, but if you don’t like to practice I would not get it. The focus is not on slights but on how it flows from one coin to the next. The idea is to keep you on the effect not the moves.

[thexcheat]

"last time i checked... you needed to practice magic to perform it. don't want to sound mean... but if you don't want to put time and effort then don't get it."

*sigh* i did not want to give the impression that i do not practice or do not like to practice. and yes i know there will be a certain amount of practice that i would need to do to preform this, but these people are TOP magicians here, and when they say its easy to perform are they saying it from their point of view(as top magicians) or from a beginners mindset. what im basicaly trying to say is, would you recommend it for a beginner in coin magic?(of which i am, or even less) i still dont know if im going to buy this, even though it looks, awsome. but these comments have really helped, ty everyone.

EDIT: lol sorry for all the questions but i have one more, are the coins easily broken? i know they proabably arent but just wondering if i droped them would they crack/gimmick get broken.

[ElisG]

*sigh* i did not want to give the impression that i do not practice or do not like to practice. and yes i know there will be a certain amount of practice that i would need to do to preform this, but these people are TOP magicians here, and when they say its easy to perform are they saying it from their point of view(as top magicians) or from a beginners mindset. what im basicaly trying to say is, would you recommend it for a beginner in coin magic?(of which i am, or even less) i still dont know if im going to buy this, even though it looks, awsome. but these comments have really helped, ty everyone.


Coin magic is generally difficult, most of it is about developing the right muscles and finding out which to use, which can take months or even years, considering this isn't, I would reccommend it.


EDIT: lol sorry for all the questions but i have one more, are the coins easily broken? i know they proabably arent but just wondering if i droped them would they crack/gimmick get broken.

Judging by the creator of the gimmicks, I HIGHLY doubt it ;).

[kissdadookie]

Just to be slightly anal, the creator of the gimmicks is Steve Dushek (I may be spelling his last name wrong), not Jamie Schoolcraft. Jamie is the machinist that machined the gimmick and the coins. ;)

[ElisG]

Just to be slightly anal, the creator of the gimmicks is Steve Dushek (I may be spelling his last name wrong), not Jamie Schoolcraft. Jamie is the machinist that machined the gimmick and the coins. ;)

Curse you! :D

[joshua barrett]

umm if you drop this gimmick just like a ex-[ id say good by or hope you can undent it. these dent easier then regular [ do

[zodiac192]

Yes, the DVD comes with custom-made coins by Jamie Schoolcraft.



-Zodiac-

[hkb]

Hey kiss dadookie,

You have no idea how I appreciate your so called anal response. I've been doing similar C/S routining for almost 20 years using what was introduced to me by 'Dusheck'. When I first saw the demo, I knew what it was with all my senses but who to ask... I did NOT want to get into one of those shooting matches about who did what and when.

Regardless, I cut my own coins if I have extra (dremel, file, steady hand), but if there is a remilled edge or something out of the ordinary there's no one to ask. You know sometimes it just plain s****s being seriously independent & possibly knowing more than who would have to be asked to get to the bottom of things. Especially when your not out to cull secrets or methods cause most where we're concerned are known to us already.

Thanks for being anal. But where I'm coming from, your anything but.

Best...
Keith

[kissdadookie]

The lesson we all learn from hkb's post? That he gaffs his own coins, for the rest of the world, we're going to have to buy the effect or purchase the necessary gaffs. This is a good thing because that's more $$$ pumped into the magic ecosystem to support creators of fine products. I personally had no problem purchasing DD because I know how much the gaff is worth and for it to come with most definitely shaved coins, this is going to be something really special especially at $35 which is only about $5 more than a standard Johnson half dollar expanded shell. There's so many applications that can be used with gimmick. I do however wish that it was made from a half dollar instead of the english penny because the range of use would have widely increased for me if it was made with the half dollar.

[Glenn West]

I have found a better (re; less exposure) way to word a question I have.

Can the gimmick be used on any half dollar and English penny, or do you have to use the two provided.

I know that the two coins are examinable, but I would like to know if they are both normal, lol. Basically, I am hoping that one of them has NOT been altered in a way that is common for magic and coins.

Not that I have a problem with that coin being that way, but rather that I would love to make full use of the particular gimmick included with THIS effect as well as others.

Also, I have had gimmicks that were limited to the coin included before, and ended up loosing the coin. (I used to have a bunch of halves, and would give one away to the kid who helped me in my shows, and the coin probably got mixed in with them and I gave it away. Unlike other gaffed coins, the ones I am speaking of are far more easy to loose track of.)

Thanks
Glenn

[kissdadookie]

I believe you can use a regular coin for replacement if you were to lose the supplied coin.

[Glenn West]

I hope so. Mind you, now realizing that the gimmick will be a penny rather than a half dollar narrows my plans for the gimmick, lol.

Too bad it's not avaliable with the gimmick being a half.

[Glenn West]

Well, I have gotten comfirmation that the gimmick DOEs work with regular coins, which is a GREAT plus.

I am going to order this, as well as Paic, but unfortunately do not have a credit card, lol.

I only use paypal sadly, so I am limited in where I can order from on-line. Damn you Theory 11, I may just have to give into the man and get a CC because of you :p

I have avoided a credit card for the past seven years. I have not needed one for anything and have avoided a lot of debt as a result, lol.

Yet again, magic has swept in and started me on a pathg to ruin.

[Jack The Magician]

I am going to order this, as well as Paic, but unfortunately do not have a credit card, lol.

I only use paypal sadly, so I am limited in where I can order from on-line. Damn you Theory 11, I may just have to give into the man and get a CC because of you :p

I have avoided a credit card for the past seven years. I have not needed one for anything and have avoided a lot of debt as a result, lol.

Yet again, magic has swept in and started me on a pathg to ruin.

I believe that Theory 11 is working on a way to pay for orders via Cash, Money Order and/or Check.

So if you're patient, you may avoid falling into debt, and then going bankrupt, like those in the sub-prime mortgage crisis.

Cheers,
JTM