Who would you say will be the next flourishing God?

[Jeremy Hanrahan]

I for one do some flourishing, but not much, mostly card magic. But I can say that I really enjoy watching artist's peform their stuff. With the addition of the internet and underground venues,whom would you say will be the next star to rise out of the Underground?

My vote goes to Jordan Lapping from the U.K His style is unique and his skills are far more advanced then any I have seen. I for one can not wait to see when he makes his mark in this community!!!

Regards,

Jeremy

[Gimmickless]

Yea Jordan is awesome, but i think Virtuoso have a good chance :)

[garrett94]

yes most definetly jordan lapping, i would love to see him become famous and be on one of the videos in what is theory 12

[UnholyGodn]

I love Lapping's work, but I think Virtuoso are definatly close rivals, their work is amazing.

[Chris Hestnes]

To be honest, I think Jordan will have a more important role in magic rather than flourishing. The reason is simple, and he even says it himself; He has a minimal of original material. He can though, on the other side, execute a bunch of material better than the creators, and it scares me to think how he can, some day, execute his own original moves.

I might as well just quit.

[Jeremy Hanrahan]

So---only 2 Underground guys that would be worthy? There has to be more lol

Jeremy

[Jeremy Hanrahan]

I think Jordon would surprize the masses with original ideas. Like many creators have said, including myself "All you need is time, and a quiet place to think" That is how I came up with The Hanrahan Hold. Then after playing with that hold, devised Untouchable Coin Through Bottle.

Jeremy

[Gimmickless]

So---only 2 Underground guys that would be worthy? There has to be more lol

Jeremy

Well Virtuoso is a group of 4 :p

[Dance Or Die!]

Well Virtuoso is a group of 4 :p

that's what you get..new forums, new people, no knowledge

[richard]

that's what you get..new forums, new people, no knowledgeEverybody starts from no knowledge. So did you. Just be glad there are lots of people willing to look into cardistry and learn more about it. Can't just push new people out or nobody will ever learn!

Theory 11 will be a huge task -- informing the world about this amazing art :)

[AceOfSpades2662]

i think it would be the virts i like jordan but his style is more variations of things that have been done in the past (i love his variation of jackson 5) but i think virtuoso is more original a ton of the things in their video i have never seen before done by anyone

[AceOfGears]

what about TheCuso? he's deffinantly my favorite flourisher around.

www.TheCuso.info


-Gears-

[Neji]

I secretly hope that Ali comes back out of nowere. I still watch the teaser he made now and then and i just love it.
And yes i also think Jordan has a good chance of becoming a big icon in magic or flourishing.

[BenYou]

I personally think the virts, no offence. But they are up to something. Action = going further. On the other hand, i don't have any news of jordan releasing a dvd or material, though he is a flourishing god in my eyes ;)

[Mic Wong]

Be open-minded guys............just because the internet seems to let you know everything that is ON the internet, it doesn't mean there is nothing you don't know of.......

....in fact, it just makes the underground even more underground, because everyone assumed they knew it all out there.

try to get into an idea that there are quite a lot of crazy people that just doesn't like surfing around the net. Who knows? :)

[Jamie]

Virtuoso is untouchable.

[Avancer]

Virtuoso's video was stunning and whenever I lose inspiration, I watch it...there are others who I suppose are great as well, but I haven't been in the community long enough to have met them.

[Dance Or Die!]

Everybody starts from no knowledge. So did you. Just be glad there are lots of people willing to look into cardistry and learn more about it. Can't just push new people out or nobody will ever learn!

Theory 11 will be a huge task -- informing the world about this amazing art

I agree rich, I too was once a newb, but I never made posts containing wrong information ;) I learned another way..by listening ;)

anyhow, yeah it will be a huge task, and I wonder if we are going to be able to hold it all up..as in not being overwhelmed by new people posting all sorts of things and us not being able to correct it all (at least wel have Vinnie :D). That's mainly why I want DN to stay..but that's a whole diff story :)

[Jordan Lapping]

Wow, thanks a lot for the kind words. :)

I would like to thank all of you who voted for me, but to be honest with you, I do not want to be the next "Flourishing God".

The reason I wish this is because I do not to be known for performing good flourishes, but to be known for performing good magic. Chris pretty much hit the nail on the head and stated what I would have done at this point. My main root-focus and role right now is to continue with magic- and that's all it will be doing. I plan not on releasing any flourishes because, to be frankly honest, I do not have any to share. The reason is simple; at this moment in time I have no fun or drive with creating flourishes, and so I feel I should just continue doing the ones I love and let it be.

Magic for me is the thing I want to excel at, and that is what I keep aiming for. Flourishing is just a side-note and is something I do not want to be known for.

I vote for Virtuoso.

Jordan

[ace18]

It will be Kevin Ho or Huron Low. If one of them doesn't make it no one will.

And I would agree with Chris that Jordan will pursue more magic than more flourishing, even though is he the chops to do so.

[hyo]

Nobody named Bone Ho?!

Well, I guess he is already a flourishing god (?) :)

[Avancer]

I haven't heard much about him, other than his eye cut...

[Jeremy Hanrahan]

that's what you get..new forums, new people, no knowledge

12 years in magic. Sorry never really liked flourishing until lately. I will try and jump on youtube right now and watch the thousand or so flourishing demos, then I will get right back to you lol

Jeremy

[JorgeRamos]

Kevin Ho for sure, hes amazing.

[Virus]

I think Tical, I dunno about Jordan Lapping *goes on youtube*

[c3rb3rus]

I haven't heard much about him, other than his eye cut...

here are some other of bones videos so you can get acquainted with Bone's work

Bone Ho - Furious Angels (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFPksG4_JfQ)


for future refference ... most videos of the guys mentioned on this thread are on Decknique (http://decknique.net) .. just go check out the videos on there

[Gimmickless]

I think Tical, I dunno about Jordan Lapping *goes on youtube*

Your missing out :)

He has a couple vid's on DN too I believe

[Jeremy Hanrahan]

here are some other of bones videos so you can get acquainted with Bone's work

Bone Ho - Furious Angels (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFPksG4_JfQ)


for future refference ... most videos of the guys mentioned on this thread are on Decknique (http://decknique.net) .. just go check out the videos on there

WHOA, guys got chops and then some.

[stickyfinger]

Everyones said Jordan and Virtuoso.

But further down the line, I think these people also have what it takes to make a name for themselves.

Jonas
Chis Hestnes
Jason Sol
Fiddling Steve




Sticky

[hawk7]

uhm, what about daniel madison? i mean he might not be a future god, because i think he already is one, just not as well known as the bucks. he's also on youtube btw ;-)

[Jak]

The virts , jordan lapping , chris hestnes , jonas =D

[Djmckee]

I dunno about Jordan Lapping *goes on youtube*

So What?

Watch Jordans Vids There Awesome Far Better Than Most. Virtuso's is Good also.

But the next 'God' May Not Have Even Picked Up A Deck Yet.

It Could Be You, You, You or Me (Haha). Who Knows It could even be your Unborn Son or Daughter. Who Knows.

But as it Stands, Virtuso as Flourishers.

Lapping as Much More.

[David Engel]

I know someone whos dad works in computer editing and stuff. He told him about Virtuoso, with his dad ending up telling him that it is all fake and is sped up. I am not sure about it though.

Future god? Not sure, but anyone can do it.

[Jeff]

Jordan, you are the one who inspire me the most. I can’t thank you enough for everything. What I have today is mainly because of you.

So if this topic is about ‘the next card magic God’, you definitely get my vote.

Back to topic, Kevin Ho.

[c3rb3rus]

I know someone whos dad works in computer editing and stuff. He told him about Virtuoso, with his dad ending up telling him that it is all fake and is sped up. I am not sure about it though.

Future god? Not sure, but anyone can do it.

i've been in cam sessions with several of these ppl and trust me the videos they put out are not sped up at all... they are as smooth and quick 1 on 1 as they are in the video.

[RebelAce69]

Well sorry to say I'm not a huge Card artist, so I can't really say who is amazing compared to others but I saw Virtuoso and they were awesome. But you never know who could come along.

-RA69

[Victor]

For individual i will choose Bone! but he seems to be godlike already. :D
Kevin and Ling stand a chance. :)

[Jackson4]

I know someone whos dad works in computer editing and stuff. He told him about Virtuoso, with his dad ending up telling him that it is all fake and is sped up. I am not sure about it though.

Future god? Not sure, but anyone can do it.

I'm pretty sure any 'outsider' to flourishing would think that the virts sped up their video. I used to think Brian Tudor sped up his videos, along with jordan lapping (that is before i knew how quick he actually was, and when u consider he practices for upwards of 10 hours a day, you could expect such results.). Three of the virtuoso members have been flourishing for like 3 years or more, so they're really fast and smooth. As I also said in a previous topic, laymen generally see things slower than we do, and moves can look like just a blur for some.
J4

[Victor]

I'm pretty sure any 'outsider' to flourishing would think that the virts sped up their video. I used to think Brian Tudor sped up his videos, along with jordan lapping (that is before i knew how quick he actually was, and when u consider he practices for upwards of 10 hours a day, you could expect such results.). Three of the virtuoso members have been flourishing for like 3 years or more, so they're really fast and smooth. As I also said in a previous topic, laymen generally see things slower than we do, and moves can look like just a blur for some.
J4

Obviously His Dad don't know anything about card flourishing! ;)

[Cardmagic12345]

that's what you get..new forums, new people, no knowledge

Yeah thats starting to piss me off.

[Daren]

Thank you to everyone who mentioned the virts. Your support is much appreciated. =D

On top of that, i'd like to say good job to the people behind theory 11 and all, great website, really nice layout. Everything looks very professionally done up. Awesome.:)

[Dance Or Die!]

12 years in magic. Sorry never really liked flourishing until lately. I will try and jump on youtube right now and watch the thousand or so flourishing demos, then I will get right back to you lol

Jeremy

hahaha!
that's só funny....
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not :(

[Jeremy Hanrahan]

hahaha!
that's só funny....
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not :(


haha, got you

[dancedany]

I would say that the next big thing in flourishing will be(IS) Caludio Merlini(CIAPPI).It's a peety that he is with de'vo(always bragging that he's the only card artist, he invented all etc).
Please do not edit or delete.
:P
:D

[David Engel]

I'm pretty sure any 'outsider' to flourishing would think that the virts sped up their video. I used to think Brian Tudor sped up his videos, along with jordan lapping (that is before i knew how quick he actually was, and when u consider he practices for upwards of 10 hours a day, you could expect such results.). Three of the virtuoso members have been flourishing for like 3 years or more, so they're really fast and smooth. As I also said in a previous topic, laymen generally see things slower than we do, and moves can look like just a blur for some.
J4

I don't know if you called me an outsider or not. I have been flourishing since February.

[Fergus O']

jonas perhaps? he has some really original stuff. the virts are ...well yeah, the virts are god-like already. wont take much to make the jump

[Kenn K.]

i rekn kevin ho...

yeh, and ciappi is relli kool as well, he does relli amazing stuff and has insane creativity.

[Dead]

Interesting topic. I think in order to be considered a flourishing "god", one must be skilled in all areas of flourishing. Very few people can meet this criteria. Some names that come to my mind are Jerry Cestkowski and Bone.

As far as the next person to be added, I'm not sure there are any flourishers that fit the bill quite yet.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Vinnie C.]

Hmm. Hard to tell who the next card-god will be, but I can tell you this:

Bone as well as Virtuoso are going to throw out some crazy stuff. :D

Also, I guess most of you haven't seen Bone's or Virtuoso's magic, it would blow you away.

And about that guy's dad saying Virtuoso's video was sped up. It wasn't. I've met two of those guys in person, and they are just as fast and smooth, in fact, they were even more impressive live. :D

-Vince

[UnknownEnemyZero]

Maxv321, Jrunst3n, Digital Artist 6, xLOOMx, and webghost1 all have great potential. I'm waiting for the end of the HL tournament just to see who comes out on top and what these guys come up with. It'll be awe inspiring to see Maxv321 in a couple of years since he's at such a young age. Not even being able to drive yet. :(

Ciappi is pretty established getting his teaching section on XB II and such. FatFingerz, I'd consider him already established considering he landed himself a nice television spot in his home country for everyone to see.

[Daniel Chard]

I dont think saying who will be the next flourishing god is a fair question, as its all just opinions and peoples personal preference.

Theirs so many good flourishers on the scene at the curent time, wouldnt be fair to say that one guy is the best.

It simply wouldnt be true:p

Many thanks

Daniel Chard

[Jeremy Hanrahan]

Does Bones have a web site or dvd?

[richard]

Does Bones have a web site or dvd?
Under construction: http://www.boneho.com/

He currently isn't selling any DVDs.

[Vinnie C.]

Though I hear he is going to begin working on a DVD soon. ;)

-Vince

[trashmanf]

I think you should watch the HL tourney threads for who some of the up-and-comers are, De'vo is going to feature a bunch of the best forum members on his next DVD and these are guys that are really attaining professional level! guys like webghost, max321 and Ciappi for example are just freaking rad.

[Jeremy Hanrahan]

Under construction: http://www.boneho.com/

He currently isn't selling any DVDs.


Thanks man.

[Tam]

Wow. what jokes. the next God is obviously going to be me =P. haha.;)

[KatieEgleston]

This is probably the toughest question that has ever hit the cardistry forums. I watch all the videos that are submitted to T11 and on the YouTube.

I can't say I have a favorite but all I can say is the Bucks better watch out, these kids coming up are nothing but STRAIGHT TALENT lately.

Katie Egleston

[trashmanf]

Right now there is only one really flourishing "god" and that is the flourishman Jerry C. The main attribute that you need to be a God, is immortality. Since none of these johnny-come-lately kids have been prolific enough to say, release encyclopedias, DVDs, and the like, their "work" (at this point) will not leave a lasting mark, and will not stand the test of time.

If you really want to intelligently, quantitatively define who the next person is that will supercede J.C. (notice his initials are the same as, um, another famous figure in history?), it won't be someone that has just been flourishing for a couple years (which is almost everyone) Ergo, we won't see the next flourishing "god" for at least a decade, or longer, depending on how long the Flourishman continues to practice. I doubt that any of these kids practice nearly as much as the adults that have devoted themselves to this.

of course, that's thinking monotheistically, IF there can be a group of gods, then yeah singapore would probably be the next metaphorical Olympus. but Jerry would still Pwn on them with lighting bolts.

[Eddie]

I would say God himself/herself/bothself/itself.

[cbols23]

Ha, I love topics like this because yes, we all like the people mentioned so far but we can't be quite shure yet because as another member said, the person may not be a person we know yet. It could be a person who we barely see around the forums who might "pretend" to be new when they might be 13 and know almost everything there is to Flourishes and may be much better than most of us.

We just cant tell yet, yet there are many people now that post videos quite often.

If fact it could be a person without a camera and just practices all day.

All in all We dont know who the next "God" is.

[JohnH]

I'm not very in on flourishing (I'm more the magic type), but from what I've seen, Daniel Streit will go far. :)

[DawnOfMagic]

Hands down virtuoso~!

[copperfield 14]

Who will be the next? Who was the first flourishing god?

[Ampersan5340]

If fattywarbucks came back he would give you guys a run for your money. Anywayya it could be as jordan said in his interview with the cuso. Someone who practices all day and doens't have a camera.

[jimboguitar]

Kevin Ho will be the next to hit big in flourishing.

[kingarthurlove]

I for one do some flourishing, but not much, mostly card magic. But I can say that I really enjoy watching artist's peform their stuff. With the addition of the internet and underground venues,whom would you say will be the next star to rise out of the Underground?

My vote goes to Jordan Lapping from the U.K His style is unique and his skills are far more advanced then any I have seen. I for one can not wait to see when he makes his mark in this community!!!

Regards,

Jeremy


where can I find his videos???

[copperfield 14]

where can I find his videos???

Here are a few of his videos

http://media.theory11.com/304-LemonDemon

Tutorial
http://media.theory11.com/182-Taylor-Made

Youtube page
http://www.youtube.com/user/JordanLapping

You can find more at

Decknique http://decknique.net/media

Dan and Dave http://www.dananddave.com/

[Jordan Lapping]

Wow, I forgot about some of those -- I didn't realize I had a mini-archive!Thanks for posting, Copperfield 14, I appreciate it. :)

Kingarthurlove, I hope you have fun watching!

Take care all,
Jordan

[Aris.SA]

Lapping..
Bone Ho I think he is a God now
Jonas has great chops
Kev Ho I hove his cuts
Virts

For somebody to be a God isnt completely necessary to release a DVD or a Book :S

[UnknownEnemyZero]

For someone to be a God? It would just be someone who as spent more time and achieved more in his art than you. A God can only be God if you let it.

Publishing a DVD or book protects your material and helps you earn a living off of your art while giving back to the community. Why wouldn't they be able to? I'm pretty sure anyone who knows a little something about word processing can release a phamplet or two, or better yet some pdf's for the web. Course if their doing it on their own it can take a while.

[Monkeyofmanipulation]

I like to think that there is someone out there other than the virts and Jordan Lapping who will rise up. Not to say these guys aren't awesome but i like to think there is a lil dude sitting in his room with his deck making dananddave look as about familiar to a deck of cards as a penguin is a desert.

[Jonas]

Trashmanf gets my vote.

[trashmanf]

Whoa there Jonas, I may be a flourishing god, but you pwn me with D-lites any day ;)

[Monkeyofmanipulation]

Trash i think you will "pwn" everyone soon....:P
You know what i mean...
ZOOOOM/

lol
to much?

[trashmanf]

no not too much

THIS would be too much ;)

http://thelolcats.com/pics/gravitycat.jpg

[Monkeyofmanipulation]

Are you sure the cat isn't just bowing to a pack of mighty "wynns"?

[VagueTheory]

Bone Ho, all the way.

The guy is like a hybrid of De'vo and Virtuoso. He is just pure beastiness.

If you're looking for 12 packet displays and 3 feet card dribbles, then he's the guy to go to.

[cbols23]

What if I am an Atheist?

I do not believe there could be a "God"

It would be impossible to be a God because everyone would have to believe you are one, at the exact same time.

We all know that the world has more things to care about then a "God" at flourishing.

Just my two cents.

[LingNemesis]

What if I am an Atheist?

That cracked me up! Haha!

[Jonas]

Bone Ho, all the way.

Already is, and been considered one since he first appeared on the scene.

[Farrell]

There is no god, there is no spoon.

[adjones]

I love Jordan Lapping's videos... he's fantastic.