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Brundo
September 1st, 2007, 06:22 AM
Everybody's been talking about distortion and panic, but nobody's mentioned TnR! Personally, I think it sounds amazing

Thoughts?

-Brundo

DannyT
September 1st, 2007, 06:38 AM
Nobody talked about it because there's no video of it and it's not coming out until November 15th.

y2john
September 1st, 2007, 10:44 AM
Sounds good though, can't wait to see the vid

AncientGhost
September 1st, 2007, 10:56 AM
Please... this section is for the reviews!
If you want to talk about TnR do it in the right place....

Bernard Brandon
September 1st, 2007, 07:54 PM
I think Matthew Bich's TnR seems a fascinating torn and restored card effect too, but I'm already set with "TORN" by Daniel Garcia.

TPA
September 1st, 2007, 10:04 PM
this is not a review,he is just asking why is no one talking about it.
A review is some who writes about how the dvd looks.how good is the dvd..ETC..ETC

chainzero
September 1st, 2007, 10:04 PM
How does this compare to Torn Asunder? :)

dasuprememep
September 1st, 2007, 11:13 PM
I guess we need to wait until there is a video. This Bich guy looks really intense though...

The Dark Angel
September 1st, 2007, 11:25 PM
For the record how is his name said?

jonraiker
September 2nd, 2007, 02:09 AM
Just wanted to make a post and let you guys know that this effect is unbelievable. Here's EXACTLY how it looks:

A card is shown, and torn into four pieces. Each piece is individually shown -- front AND back -- and then the restoration. It looks like each piece just melts together. Now for the kicker:

With no ditches, moves, or anything funky, the card is turned around to show that it has morphed into a completely different card.

It seriously blew my mind. I almost had a heart attack the first time I saw it. Bich is brilliant.

jonraiker
September 2nd, 2007, 02:10 AM
For the record how is his name said?
It's "beesh". But in an American accent it's... nevermind.

y2john
September 2nd, 2007, 08:13 AM
Sounds great... I wonder how this compares to the soon to be re-released Perfect Asunder?

I can't wait to see the vid, it sounds very visual.

baskitboy5
September 2nd, 2007, 08:51 AM
I love T&R effects, can't wait to see this!
Adam

Brundo
September 2nd, 2007, 08:56 AM
Just wanted to make a post and let you guys know that this effect is unbelievable. Here's EXACTLY how it looks:

A card is shown, and torn into four pieces. Each piece is individually shown -- front AND back -- and then the restoration. It looks like each piece just melts together. Now for the kicker:

With no ditches, moves, or anything funky, the card is turned around to show that it has morphed into a completely different card.

It seriously blew my mind. I almost had a heart attack the first time I saw it. Bich is brilliant.

Woah, that sounds amazing! When will you release the video? On launch date?

-Brundo

sdmmagician
September 2nd, 2007, 11:41 AM
Maybe it's just me, but it sounds like the "kicker" ending may give away some of the method.

Aaron Shields
September 2nd, 2007, 01:19 PM
Mathieu showed this one to me a couple years ago. Visually it looks stellar. Mathieu is one of my favorite creators in magic; he has some really incredible stuff.

The first time we met in person he fooled me completely with trick after trick after trick in a little cafe in philly. I don't think I've been mentally abused that badly by anyone since then.

Steve Simmons
September 2nd, 2007, 09:34 PM
Aaron,

Good thing you put the word "mentally" in there...even still, I was laughing so hard at the way that sounds. LOL!

THEGUY26
September 2nd, 2007, 11:10 PM
For the record how is his name said?

I am pretty sure it's Matthew Bick.

Anyways, I think that if the card changes after the restoration, it pretty much ruins the effect.

jonraiker
September 2nd, 2007, 11:14 PM
I am pretty sure it's Matthew Bick.
See my post above. "Beesh".
Anyways, I think that if the card changes after the restoration, it pretty much ruins the effect.
Not at all, and here's why. You have a card chosen then "accidentally" find an indifferent card. You then decide to use the indifferent card for something magical, "to redeem yourself". Perform the TnR, and when the card is revealed it's seen to be the selected card. Badabing, badaboom.

It's truly incredible to watch guys. I'm just as pumped as you are.

ElisG
September 2nd, 2007, 11:17 PM
Not at all, and here's why. You have a card chosen then "accidently" find an indifferent card. You then decide to use the indifferent card for something magical, "to redeem yourself". Perform the TnR, and when the card is revealed it's seen to be the selected card. Badabing, badaboom.


Wow, it all makes sense know, awesome...

I too was skeptical about the change in this, but add a card reveal into it and that's what I call magic, damn, nice concept.

baskitboy5
September 2nd, 2007, 11:18 PM
I was a little confused about how the transpo fit in, but after the explanation from JonRaiker I am really really looking forward to this!
Adam

Dr.Nick
September 2nd, 2007, 11:46 PM
Any one know how much this is going to cost?

ElisG
September 2nd, 2007, 11:48 PM
I'm guessing about $25 not including shipping, that would match up with panic and distortion.

Lionsden123
September 3rd, 2007, 10:59 AM
It's "beesh". But in an American accent it's... nevermind.


Lol! That's how I always thought it was!

Hehe haha hoh wow... funny.

Thanks,
Evan

(And it sounds like an awesome effect.)

Tim Trono
September 3rd, 2007, 03:17 PM
Mathieu is a brilliant thinker so I look forward to this. On originally reading the ad copy I was concerned about the change (does that yell out that there was a switch) but Jon's additional comments on the effect helped alleviate that. Thanks for the additional info.

Tim

gared_Crawford
September 4th, 2007, 02:11 PM
Worry not guys...this trick is the Bomb!

Sir FansAlot
September 4th, 2007, 03:52 PM
Not at all, and here's why. You have a card chosen then "accidentally" find an indifferent card. You then decide to use the indifferent card for something magical, "to redeem yourself". Perform the TnR, and when the card is revealed it's seen to be the selected card. Badabing, badaboom.

It's truly incredible to watch guys. I'm just as pumped as you are.

I'm having trouble understanding, it would seem the spectator would want to be able to examine the same card that was restored. Otherwise they'll think somehow you switched cards and the restoration becomes unclear.

Glenn West
September 4th, 2007, 04:13 PM
If I had heard what the effect was prior to getting a sneek of it, I too would have dismissed the idea of adding a change to a T&R, just look at "perfect" asunder for how terrible it can look.

However, Bich's effect looks so unbelievably clean that there is absolutely NO idea of a different card being in play and the change at the end just hits like a tonne of bricks.

Oddly enough I considered the possibility of having a change at the end of my T&R but dismissed it/never bothered to use it. My idea was to use a business card. Borrow a spec's business card do a T&R and in thend turn it over to show it has changed into yours.

jonraiker
September 4th, 2007, 05:18 PM
I'm having trouble understanding, it would seem the spectator would want to be able to examine the same card that was restored. Otherwise they'll think somehow you switched cards and the restoration becomes unclear.
Bich's effect looks so unbelievably clean that there is absolutely NO idea of a different card being in play and the change at the end just hits like a tonne of bricks.
Sir FansAlot,

Glenn beat me to it! You have no idea how clean this effect looks. There is literally NO possibility of you changing the card, as it's in full view of the audience the entire time... and they'll know this. You never move the card, drop it, take it near the deck, etc. It stays at eye level the ENTIRE duration of the effect. We could have literally used the web cam video he sent us as a preview. It's so amazingly clean. It was the first time I'd been amazed as a magician in a loooooong time.

Seriously... when you see this you're going to think it's camera tricks. No doubt in my mind. It looks THAT good. I'm extremely excited we have the chance to offer this to you guys. By far, my favorite effect as of recently.

Don't mean to "hype" the effect, but it's a masterpiece.

Marlin
September 4th, 2007, 05:24 PM
Just wanted to make a post and let you guys know that this effect is unbelievable. Here's EXACTLY how it looks:

A card is shown, and torn into four pieces. Each piece is individually shown -- front AND back -- and then the restoration. It looks like each piece just melts together. Now for the kicker:

With no ditches, moves, or anything funky, the card is turned around to show that it has morphed into a completely different card.

It seriously blew my mind. I almost had a heart attack the first time I saw it. Bich is brilliant.


Wow that sounds insane. I might get it when it comes out.

chainzero
September 4th, 2007, 05:27 PM
In case other people do not know, Mathieu Bich won FISM 2006 in the Invention Category. He is incredibly creative.

Take a look at his Spreadwave. I'm not even going to guess how much experimenting it took him to create that effect.

The Illusionist
September 4th, 2007, 05:37 PM
This trick sounds good but I will not know for sure after I see a video of it.
I hope that the method is completely different than Daniel Garcia's Torn. I loved his effect and I perform it a lot, I just don't want to pay twice for the same trick even that at the end you restore a different card.

Anyway I still don't like the end because then it will be pretty obvious that you didn't restore the same card, but I can never know how it would look like until I see the video.

-The Illusionist

Glenn West
September 4th, 2007, 05:45 PM
Believe me, if you want to compare it to Torn, no comparison.

Basically, take the first restoration of Torn, and make it CLEANER, yes, that's right even cleaner looking. The pieces are just touched and restored, not a single false move. Not one, this includes even the slightest finger movement to unfold another card, and no ditching/stealing.

NOW, make EVERY PIECE RESTORED THE SAME WAY. None of this each piece is LESS visual than the previous, like Torn, to the point where the last one is almost entirely a bluff with no piece shown. (No offence Mr. Garcia)

Every piece is restored cleaner than the first piece in Torn. At least that what I remember, lol.

So the idea that there is a switch/change, no chance even you will think that, even after you KNOW that the card does change.

jonraiker
September 4th, 2007, 06:19 PM
So the idea that there is a switch/change, no chance even you will think that, even after you KNOW that the card does change.
Exactly. Did I mention that each piece is shown FRONT and BACK during the restoration? :D

Blindside462
September 4th, 2007, 06:25 PM
Exactly. Did I mention that each piece is shown FRONT and BACK during the restoration? :D

That is very nice, may replace me doing torn :)

simonbernard
September 15th, 2007, 09:01 PM
Is Gared Crawford's torn and restored card video (I'm talking about the trick he uploaded on Youtube a couple of months ago, not his DVD Unripped) uses the same principle ?
If so, this is WHITOUT a doubt one of the most beautiful piece of magic I've seen so far..

Simon.

BlueBackedBikes
September 15th, 2007, 10:26 PM
Wow.

I have no idea how I missed this thread, but I just read through it, and TnR sounds absolutely positively amazing.

AllanLuu
September 15th, 2007, 11:54 PM
Wow jonraiker, the effect sounds amazing but I am ot huge on torn and restored cards because you have to keep wrecking cards.

But we will have to see, if it looks good enough I might just get it.

The Dark Angel
September 16th, 2007, 01:09 AM
Has anyone heard anything about Sean Field's Fusion? It sounds pretty amazing...

MikeGoyke
September 16th, 2007, 01:11 AM
Exactly. Did I mention that each piece is shown FRONT and BACK during the restoration? :D
:eek: too cool, this sounds quite good

Jack The Magician
September 16th, 2007, 01:21 AM
Has anyone heard anything about Sean Field's Fusion? It sounds pretty amazing...

Sean Field's fusion is out.

Here is part of a review: "a card is chosen and signed. Slowly and deliberately, Fields folds the card in half lengthwise, then widthwise. He opens the card up and then tears it into quarters, fairly displaying the four pieces. Fields then places two of the pieces in his mouth and just touches the other two together. The pieces immediately fuse back together. The next piece is shown and restored in the same fashion, as well as the final piece. After displaying the fully restored card, he comments on the creases in the card, which he then visibly "irons" out! Still not content, Fields then peels off the spectator's signature, thus fully restoring the card to its original condition!"

Cheers,
JTM

THEGUY26
September 17th, 2007, 04:30 PM
You could do this trick with a dupe card, so you don't have the change, right?

The Dark Angel
September 17th, 2007, 04:38 PM
I'd like to hear reviews on this, as I'm dying to get it, but it's always wise to hear a review or two first.

BlueBackedBikes
September 17th, 2007, 04:41 PM
I'd like to hear reviews on this, as I'm dying to get it, but it's always wise to hear a review or two first.
Hold on there nelly. It's not out for another 2 months :)

The Dark Angel
September 17th, 2007, 06:26 PM
I was talking about Fusion by Sean Fields.

BlueBackedBikes
September 17th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Oh, ha! That makes a lot more sense. My bad :p

THEGUY26
September 18th, 2007, 04:18 PM
There is a performance of Fusion on TheMagicDepot.com, but it looks horrible, don't watch it. Sean's FU2 is an impromptu torn & restored rou tine. It is very similar to Torn.

y2john
September 18th, 2007, 04:44 PM
Yeah FU2 is fantastic and can work with a signed card shown throughout... with a little thought

The Dark Angel
September 18th, 2007, 04:45 PM
Ok, I got Fusion last night. Kinda tricky cause it was written as you would perform it if you were left-handed, and I'm right, so I have to reverse everything, but still pretty good.
Review to come.

Jinn
September 26th, 2007, 04:50 AM
can it be signed???