Best Card Controls

[drorange]

there is a best double lift so i though i would add this plus i need to learn some more

can people not just post it but what they learned it from so others can find that source and learn for them selves.

the one i use mainly is

-double undercut (taught in Daryls card sleights dvds)
- ego control (daniel garcia project 2)

thx guys :D

[xfightyrdmns]

i like the ego slip as well, but the control i use most often is usually the pass(not sure about a definitive reference for the pass..its in a lot of places) or the hofzinser spread control(daryl's sleight of hand)


off topic but, first post :) glad to be part of such a great site

[Luke Dancy]

It's hard to beat a good pass, when done correctly it should look like nothing has happened. I'll be the first to admit I'm a pass junkie though.

l u k e

[drorange]

i like the ego slip as well, but the control i use most often is usually the pass(not sure about a definitive reference for the pass..its in a lot of places) or the hofzinser spread control(daryl's sleight of hand)


off topic but, first post :) glad to be part of such a great site
thx for your post and welcome to Theory11

btw how didi u find out about it?

[Eddie]

Can't say its really a card control, but I just like to go use the easy way and use the double lift and put in the wrong card in the center of the deck.

[Christopher Williams]

Luke Dancy has a control which i have a small touch on that is just great. Same as Rob James has a great control, probably more convincing than a pass at times! Steve Bedwells control is incredible as well...

However, i still use the pass more than any other control. I use a riffle pass, or my own original 'Did you see it?' pass

[doogiedesign]

can people not just post it but what they learned it from so others can find that source and learn for them selves.



I don't have this but I heard it's a good DVD for learning the pass.

http://mymagic.com/kaufman.htm

[harapanong]

I've heard that Asher's Losing Control is very good.

I remember being very impressed when I saw Andi Gladwin's InFlight Control. Check it out.

The pass is old and effective. I like doing a Lepaul Spread Pass or just a plain old Hermann Pass.

- harapan. magic!

[Shodan]

Hmm...

The Drop Addition
Convincing Control/Underspread Cull
Tilt
Various Cutting Based Controls
Hindu Shuffle Multiple Shift
Swing Cut Multiple Shift
Passes: Riffle and Backstage (Greg Wilson)

[hyo]

Riffle Pass & any Spread-Control.

[elementalconjurer]

personaly, i like dribble discrepency control. i also like overhand shuffle control

[tazer]

ashers losing control
imo, best control ever devised that i know of

[TheAsian]

It would probably depend greatly on what effect you're doing. I have found that certain things are better depending on what you're trying to do. However, the Pass is definitely an excellent choice for most tricks.

The main reason I would suggest perfect a couple of different good controls is to vary your routine. Using the same motion over and over again will make the spectator suspicious as to what you're doing.

~The Asian

[Allan Hagen]

I totally love Terry LaGerould's Swingset Control, more specifically the second (tabled) handling. Very, VERY convincing indeed.

Also, the Bow-To-Stern control from By Forces Unseen (Ernest Earick), and a Diagonal Palm Shift used as a control is very neat indeed.

[drorange]

can someone post a videop i ahve never seen it

[LucasCG]

Chad Long has one of the coolest controls Ive ever seen. Looks so damned clean. Took me a long time to figure it out. I dont know the name of the control though, sorry.

I honestly dont like the Losing Control though, the method is completely see through IMO, although I do think it would fly right by laymen, I dont feel comfortable using it.

My most used controls are probably the pass, and a double undercut. I like to keep things simple.

The bow to stern control is brilliant though.

[Jack The Magician]

Injogging is an easy control that looks normal. False Sybil is a crazy cut, which looks like something a magician would do, but looks so complicated at full speed that it does not look like a false cut. The Swivel Cut is like a medium between injogging and false sybil, in that its not to complicated for the viewer, but it accomplishes its job.

Cheers,
JTM

[kingarthurlove]

I like Circle shift~

[KildridMagician]

I like to use a side steal, and when I do that I take the palmed card and I plant it onto the deck under cover. I also like to use the Cut pass, the Dribble pass, and other moves. I have recently created a move where no pass is needed and no double lifts are used, yet when a card is placed in the center it immediately comes to the top with my method. My move I use in it is by Ed Marlo, it's an old move that is actually taught in N2, I use that move and control a card to the top that way, works well. :)

[tokyoUW]

Depending on how many spectators of course... but generally I used a dribble pass, or a really slow double undercut while talking with spectators. For the occasional fun loving bar crowd I just grab the card back and top change then put the indifferent card in the middle slowly and clean as silk.

-tokyoUW

[Jordan Garret]

I have a control that uses the tenkai.
So it looks as if i am putting the card on the deck but really..
I'm *looses train of thought.

[Afraidofzombies]

Cascade Control is my favorite.

[mattjones]

I, too, like a good pass. A double undercut is good for surrounded situations, though. I like to use a sweet-looking false cut such as Molecule 4 or Mecka (taught in The Trilogy) after a control move. It always leaves the audience impressed and convinced that there is NO WAY you could have controled their card...:D

-Matt

[eagle61]

the ego slip by danny g is one of my favorites

[Twozwozer]

A good pass does the trick for me, I can really think of any other controls i use, I know the double under cut, but I dont really like it, Ill have to learn some more today.

Cheers, Tom

[BlueBackedBikes]

Mine is BY FAR the Losing Control,by Lee Asher. Imagine a pass...with no movement whatsoever. It's in the center, close the spread, it's on top. B-E-A-UTIFUL control that fools both layfolk and magicians.

I use the Losing Control all the time unless I'm feeling a bit 'fourishy', when I'll do the Swing Swivel control. I forget where I learned it, but it looks pretty cool.

[brahmsconcerto39]

I'm having trouble with the Ego Slip though. They always see it go on top, even though i try to get the timing right. I love the idea of just putting it on top.

[JPedrosa]

I also like the pass and the double undercut but the best control for me is by far the Losing Control by Lee Asher. It´s very easy to learn and very deceptive.

[drorange]

where can i learn losing control??

[Jack The Magician]

where can i learn losing control??

You can buy Losing Control (http://www.leeasher.com/product_losingcontrol.htm)directly from Lee Asher's website (http://www.leeasher.com).

Cheers,
JTM

[BlueBackedBikes]

I highly recommend the Losing Control. I learned it and now use it about 90% of the time I need to control cards. It is SO deceptive and SO practical - it's a control that you are BOUND to use. The fact that it's mechanically simple and very easy is a bonus. It might take a little while to get down super-smoothly like Lee Asher does it, but you could easily be doing this control deceptively with 20 minutes of practice and be fooling EVERYONE - magicians and laymen alike.

Here's a little mini-review that Jon Rice wrote about it for a little more information
The Losing Control is one of if not my favorite "real world" card control. It is hard to go into detail on what it looks like, but it is extremely fair. So let's see..

Is it worth $25?

This is mainly personal preferance. To me: Yes. I have gotten so much use out of this control that it has in effect "paid for itself." The CD is not the highest quality in the world, but it is a fairly entertaining production teaching a great move as well as many variations.

Is it practical?

Again, YES. This is the most practical card control I have ever used. It is all in the hands (for the original control), is clean as can be for the most part, and works in various situations. It is a control that you are BOUND to use.

How difficult is this?

Assuming you are proficient with a pack of cards, the mechanics of the control are quite simple. The motions themselves are not difficult. However, finding the most natural beat and style for yourself can be a bit of work, as well as working up the guts to do it. It is a bit bold, but after you perform it the first time, you will realize that if done correctly, no one will even suspect any moves (which makes for perfect magic)

What seperates it from the rest of the crowd?

I think the major difference is the natural look, flow, and feel of the control. The covering action is something that makes sense, rather than a bunch of extra fiddiling or cutting the pack. Also the fact that technically it is not difficult is a bonus. However, be wary as when you first watch it on video, you may not be as impressed as you should be. This is something to be done live.

Anyways, if you want a practical move, take a plunge and buy it. It has served me well since I purchased it, and only continues to sustain my opinion of Lee's products.

Hope this helps!

J.

[DavidMisner]

I like to use my control/switch called the Reliable Switch, or just a good old ego slip. It's funny but I'm a pretty advanced magician but I cannot do a decent pass. It kind of sucks...
//David.Misner::

[drorange]

could someone link me to the lee asher control preveiw video as i wanna see it in action before i buy it

[elliotcarver]

The Lepaul jog control.
After it I do a double undercut variation from LePaul to get it on top.
It's so convincing because you can really push the card in the fan, really deep.
I'm also going to check Lee Asher's losing control.
That guy is full of superb idea's.

Elliot Carver

[BlueBackedBikes]

could someone link me to the lee asher control preveiw video as i wanna see it in action before i buy it
Lee had one up on his website at one point, but it was taken down because people were figuring it out after multiple viewings.

You'll just have to trust me (us, Jon + I) that it is a KILLER control that is easy and works in real life situations. Like Jon said, if you want a practical move, take a plunge and buy it.

[KildridMagician]

It would also be good for you to learn a side steal. I know that Luke Jermay has a new download out called, I believe it is called "Multiple Shifts". I have looked throughout the download around a week back and it has a lot of invisible controls to where you can control cards to the top, bottom, or center of deck. I recommend that!

Also, if you don't know about the cascade control, look into learning that. Don't forget about learning how to execute pass moves like the half pass and others. I use the turnover pass, which I don't see others really use. I feel it's wuite underrated, it is a very good pass when done right. ;)

[JPedrosa]

where can i learn the cascade control??

[ace18]

where can i learn the cascade control??

Card Finesse 2
but if your just buying the book for that, you are gonna be dissapointed. This book has some pretty advanced stuff in it.